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David Von Pein Wrote:The fact that so many JFK conspiracy clowns are *also* 9/11 conspiracy clowns is a pleasant thing for LNers like myself to contemplate and evaluate (at least on a visceral level).

Of course, since critics compose up to 90% of the American population - they'd naturally include kooks of all flavors... But this doesn't actually address the evidence. It's merely a false impression created by not mentioning the overwhelming numbers of the American Population that fails to accept the Warren Commission.



Believers, on the other hand, composing a much smaller percentage of the American people, have one over-riding characteristic - THEY AREN'T HONEST.



If they are ignorant of the evidence, they can be as truthful as the next person... but when it comes to believers, "Knowledgeable" and "Truthful" or "Honest" ... can't be said in the same sentence.



Take, for example, this forum's leading believer, Patrick Collins... who has been denying this:

Patrick C Wrote:

Ben Holmes Wrote:But, as Mark Lane pointed out many years ago - the witnesses who were on the record in the first two days, 11/22 and 11/23 - quite overwhelmingly pointed to the Grassy Knoll.

Bull shit - no they did not.

Ben Holmes Wrote:No believer has been able to refute that simple fact.

Oh, if I could be bothered I could easily do that. Mike Majerus certainly has. It's just a question of homework and application.

Instead of denying what is said here, he needs to simply be truthful... he either lied, or he couldn't follow the debate, and got confused about the topic. He needs to SPECIFICALLY address these statements he posted.



And if Patrick were a critic, being truthful wouldn't be so hard... But Patrick is a believer... and his faith makes him dishonest.



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Quote:THE COMMISSION SHOULD DETERMINE WITH CERTAINTY THAT THERE ARE NO MAJOR VARIATIONS BETWEEN THE FILMS AND THE ARTIST'S DRAWINGS. Commission Exhibits Nos. 385, 386, and 388 were made from the recollections of the autopsy surgeons as told to the artist. Some day someone may compare the films with the artist's drawings and find a significant error which might substantially affect the essential testimony and the Commission's conclusions. In any event, the Commission should not rely on hazy recollections, especially in view of the statement in the autopsy report (Commission Exhibit 387) that: "The complexity of those fractures and the fragments thus produced tax satisfactory verbal description and are better appreciated in the photographs and roentgenograms which are prepared" - part of a memo from Assistant Counsel Arlen Spector to General Counsel J. Lee Rankin on April 30th, 1964.

And indeed, it's come to pass. The autopsy photos have been compared to the Rydberg drawings, and it's quite obvious to everyone that the drawings were incorrect.



Yet believers still think that the conclusions the Warren Commission came to were still accurate.



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Looks like it's right around the corner... the trailer (3+ minutes). More than a few familiar names.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2a-Bfjw...e=youtu.be



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It is often suggested that LHO attracts the attention of police because he is the only employee who is absent when a check of TSBD personnel is made. Roy Truly says it is he who first notices that Oswald is absent and draws that to the attention of the police. However, LHO is not the only employee who does not return to the TSBD after the shooting.

Quote:Although Holland has nowhere in print yet explored it, after my presentation at The Nation on the mysteries of the JFK medical/autopsy evidence, Holland said he believed it was likely that JFK’s pathologists didn’t dissect the back wound because of pressure from the Kennedys. In a personal letter I responded that, although “William Manchester,[116] Gus Russo[117] and John Lattimer, MD have advanced this notion,[118] the weight of the evidence is against it. (Not even the discredited Gerald Posner buys it.[119])”



I followed with, "I won’t argue that the Kennedys probably wanted JFK’s Addison’s disease, which was irrelevant to his cause of death, left unexplored. So although there’s no solid evidence for it, perhaps they did request that JFK’s abdominal cavity, which houses the adrenals, be left alone, especially since JFK suffered no abdominal injuries. But even if the Kennedys had made that seemingly reasonable request, it was ignored. (autopsy pathologist Pierre Finck, MD and author Gus) Russo recount that one of JFK’s pathologists, Pierre Finck, MD, said that, "The Kennedy family did not want us to examine the abdominal cavity, but the abdominal cavity was examined."[120] And indeed it was--Kennedy was completely disemboweled.[121] If Finck was right, so much for the military’s kowtowing to the Kennedys. Perhaps the only "victory" the family may have won was that the doctors kept quiet about JFK’s adrenal problems, at least until 1992.



http://www.ctka.net/pr900-holland.html

Believers have often asserted that the reason the neck wound wasn't dissected, nor the track of the wound; was due to pressure from the Kennedy family.



So it's worthwhile to note evidence that this simply isn't true.



The only REAL reason that the track of the wound wasn't dissected, nor the throat... was due to orders from the military.



And this fact screams conspiracy... Can believers offer any other reason for the military's interference with the autopsy?



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The following exchange recently occurred on this forum:

Ben Holmes Wrote:

Patrick C Wrote:

Ben Holmes Wrote:But, as Mark Lane pointed out many years ago - the witnesses who were on the record in the first two days, 11/22 and 11/23 - quite overwhelmingly pointed to the Grassy Knoll.

Bull shit - no they did not.

You're lying again, Patrick. You'll NEVER support such a claim with evidence. Just as Mark refused to do.



So tell us Patrick - why are you a liar?

Patrick has had an opportunity to retract or support his claim (he also claimed that Mike Majerus book also refuted Mark Lane's point raised here)



Then asserts that he's not a liar...



Yet there's STILL no page reference to look at, or a list of witnesses in those first two days that Patrick can total up to less than a majority for the Grassy Knoll.



Why is this? Why do believers consistently refuse to support the lies that they tell about the evidence? How can Patrick believe himself honest when he absolutely refuses to defend his claims?



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The books in my personal libray on the JFK assassination are listed here should anyone be interested. It is a comprehensive list and I think more extensive that any bibiligraphy I have seen within any JFK book. Other than Reclaiming History perhaps. There are around another 50 or so that I have which contain material on the assassination but which are not specific to it. The list is not fully up to date and is missing around 20 or so titles. It is my view that the number of books on the assassination and Oswald is around 500 and NOT 2000 as claimed by Vincent Bugliosi in Reclaiming History. I have not included any self published e books - of which there are many post 2013. There are a few missing - for example Leroy Blevins and his 13 shot work of fiction presented as fact and there are a few that appear twice as paperback updates may contain extra material post first editions as per Conspiracy by Anthony Summers. For what it is worth the Orlando Martin book gets my vote for the worst written on the subject to date. There are a few other howlers in there too. I have singled out a few from both sides of the debate that I would consider recommended reading with a quot;quot; The Echo from Dealy PlazaAbraham BoldenNovember 22 1963Adam BraverThe Ruby Oswald AffairAlan AdelsonWe were thereAllen ChildsThe Assassination of John F. Kennedy : The reasons whyAlbert H. Newman The President and the ProvocateurAlex Cox63 ClosureAnthony FrewinConspiracyAnthony Summers The Kennedy ConspiracyAnthony SummersWho Killed President KennedyAnthony SummersJFK and SamAntoinette GiancanaPassion For the TruthArlen SpecterCovering the BodyBarbie ZelizerHow LBJ killed JFKBarr McCellandThe Girl on the StairsBarry ErnestImpossible - the case against Lee Harvey Oswald vol1Barry KruschImpossible - the case against Lee Harvey Oswald vol2Barry KruschImpossible - the case against Lee Harvey Oswald vol3Barry KruschCoincidence or ConspiracyBernard FensterwaldThe Lingering ShadowBernard Gauzer amp; Sid MoodyNightmare in DallasBeverley OliverThe Warren Report and its criticsBill AdlerKilling Kennedy: The End of CamelotBill O'ReillyDallas 1963 The road to the Kennedy AssassinationBill MinutaglioBreaking the SilenceBill Sloan The other AssassinBill SloanDallas 50 Years OnBlain Taylor22 Days hath NovemberBob DorffWhen the news went liveBob Huffaker Mortal ErrorBonner MenningerMortal Error HBBonner MenningerThe Zenith SecretBradley Earl AyersTriangle of DeathBradley S. O'Leary amp; L. E. SeymourThe Mystique of ConspiracyBrian BuggeCastro's SecretsBrian Latell The JFK AssassinationCarl OglesbyRed FridayCarlos Bringuier JFK Conspiracy of SilenceCharles A. Crenshaw M.DTrauma Room OneCharles Crenshaw M.DThe truth about the assassinationCharles RobertsMedicolegal invetsigation of the president John F. Kennedy murderCharles G. WilberZR RifleClaudio FuriatiIts Time for the Truth The JFK Cover UpCharles E. HulburtFour Days in NovemberClint HillSecrets from the sixth floor windowConnie KritsbergThe Texas ConnectionCraig I. ZirbelThe Final ChapterCraig I. ZirbelKill ZoneCraig RobertsCritical Reactions to the Warren ReportCurtis CrawfordWith MaliceDale K Myers November 22 The day rememberedDallas Morning NewsDefinitive ProofDan RobertsonContract on AmericaDavid E ScheimThe Mafia Killed President KennedyDavid E ScheimThe Road to DallasDavid KaiserThe Zapruder FilmDavid R. Wrone Best EvidenceDavid S. Lifton Best Evidence paperbackDavid S. LiftonBest Evidence trade paperbackDavid S. LiftonDisclosureDavid W. BelinYou are the juryDavid W. Belin November 22 1963Dean OwenDallas and the Jack Ruby TrialDiane HollowayThe Mind of OswaldDiane HollowayThe Man Who Knew Too Much hard back 1st EdDick Russell The Man Who Knew Too Much softbackDick RussellOn the trail of the AssassinsDick RussellFrom an Office Building with a high powered rifleDon AdamsThe Kennedy Assassination Cover Up RevisitedDonald GibsonA Deepr Darker TruthDonald T. PhillipsRegicideDouglas GregoryHistory will not Absolve UsE. Martin SchotzThe memoirs of Earl WarrenEarl WarrenInquest paperbackEdward J. EpsteinInquestEdward J. EpsteinLegendEdward J. EpsteinCounterplotEdward J. EpsteinThe JFK Assassination DiaryEdward J. EpsteinSixty Versions of the Kennedy AssassinationEdward J. EpsteinJFK AssassinationEdward P. RemDr. Mary's MonkeyEdward T. HaslamUndeniable TruthsEd SouzaThe Betrayal of the John F. Kennedy PresidencyEdward I ShwartzBeyond the Fence LineEd HoffmanJFK - The Cuba FilesFabian EscalanteCIA Targets FidelFabian EscalanteCold Case KennedyFlip de MayThe MK Ultra SecretFrank CamperIn the Shadow of the SphynxFrank R. DurrMurder from WithinFred T NewcombHead ShotG. Paul ChambersFatal HourG.Robert Blakey amp; Richard N. BillingsThe Plot to Kill the PresidentG.Robert Blakey amp; Richard N. Billings The Last InvestigationGaeyton Fonzi Orville Nix: The Missing JFK Assassination FilmGale Nix JacksonReal AnswersGary CornwellOswalds PoliticsGary W. O'BrianFirst Day EvidenceGary Savage Jack Ruby: The Man Who Killed the Man Who Killed KennedyGary Willis amp; Ovid DemarisThe Assassination TapesGeorge O'TooleLee Harvey Oswald as I knew himGeorge deMoohrenschildtBreach of TrustGerald D. McKnight The Warren Commission ReportGerald Ford leather versionCase ClosedGerald Posner Portrait of the AssassinGerald R. FordWas Oswald alone ?Gil ChapmanThe two faces of Lee Harvey OswaldGlenn B. FlemingLive by the SwordGus RussoBrothers in ArmsGus RussoWhere were youGus RussoCase ClosedHarold WeisbergWhitewashHarold WeisbergWhitewash IIHarold WeisbergPhotographic WhitewashHarold WeisbergWhitewashHarold Weisberg Oswald in New OrleansHarold WeisbergHigh TreasonHarrison Edward LivingstoneHigh Treason paperbackHarrison Edward LivingstoneHigh Treason TwoHarrison Edward LivingstoneKilling KennedyHarrison Edward LivingstoneKilling the TruthHarrison Edward LivingstoneThe Radical RightHarrison Edward LivingstoneThe Grassy Knoll WitnessesHarry YardhamThe GunHenry BloomgardenNovember 22 1963Helen ThomasReasonable DoubtHenry Hurt A Secret OrderH.P Albarrelli JrEyewitness to HistoryHoward Brennen Presumed GuiltyHoward Roffman History will Prove us RightHoward WillensRendezvous with DeathH.R Underwood HSCA Report Mary Ferrell Foundation versionHSCABreaking the NewsHugh Ainsworth Witness to HistoryHugh AinsworthAppointment in DallasHugh C Mcdonald amp; Geoffrey BoccaNo Case to AnswerIan Griggs Programmed to KillIon Mihai PacepaThe Kennedy AssassinationJ.Arthur JensonDestiny BetrayedJames Di EugenioThe AssassinationsJames Di EugenioReclaiming ParklandJames Di Eugenio Assassination ScienceJames H. FetzerMurder in Dealy PlazaJames H. FetzerThe Great Zapruder Fim HoaxJames H. FetzerFarewell to AmericaJames HepburnChasing GhostsJames KoepkeThe Assassination of John F. Kennedy: A Complete Book of FactsJames P. Duffy amp; Vincent L. RicciAssignment OswaldJames P. Hosty Flight from DallasJames P. JohnstoneThe WebJames R. DuffyLone Star (the life of John Connally)James Reston JnrThe JFK Assassination RevisitedJames V RinnovatoreAccidental VictimJames Reston Jnr End of DaysJames SwansonThe Truth WitheldJames TagueLBJ and the Kennedy KillingJames TagueThe weight of evidenceJay DavidOswalds GameJean Davison Oswalds Game Trade SBJean DavisonThe Last Dissenting WitnessJean HillA mother in historyJean StaffordOur Man in MexicoJefferson MorleyGeneral Walker and the Murdur or President KennedyJefferey H. CaulfieldA brief guide to the JFK AssassinationJeremy BojczukWho Really Killed KennedyJerome R. CorsiConspiracy in Camelot: The Complete History of the Assassination of John Fitzgerald KennedyJerry A. KrothThe Perfect AssassinJerry LeanardAssassination FilesJesse CurryThe Day Kennedy Was ShotJim BishopJFK Conspirary The Missing FileJim BowlesOn the trail of the AssassinsJim GarrisonHeritage of StoneJim GarrisonCrossfireJim MarrsCrossfire paperbackJim MarrsConspiracy of OneJim Moore Oswlad Assassin or Fall GuyJoachim Joesten The Dark Side of Lyndon Baines JohnsonJoachim JoestenOswald The truthJoachim JoestenWhat really happened ? JFKJoan Hubbard-BurrellFarewell to JusticeJoan MellenOur Man in HaitiJoan MellenHarvey and LeeJohn ArmstrongReflections on Jfk's Assassination: 250 Famous Americans Remember November 22 1963John B. JovichSilencing the Lone AssassinJohn Canal In History's ShadowJohn ConnallyAfter the assassinationJohn H. A. SparrowMafia KingfishJohn H. DavisThe Kennedy ClanJohn H. Davis Dynasty and Disaster HardbackJohn H. DavisMafia Kingfish hard backJohn H. DavisKennedy ContractJohn H. DavisJFK An American Coupe D'EtatJohn Hughes WilsonPraise From a future generationJohn KelinKennedy amp; LincolnJohn LattimerJFK Assassination logicJohn McAdamsOswald and the CIAJohn NewmanThe Man on the Grassy KnollJohn R. Craig amp; Philip A. RogersAfter the AssassinationJohn SparrowThe Assassination of JFK minute by minuteJonathon MayoSix Seconds in DallasJosiah Thompson LBJ and the Conspiracy to Kill KennedyJoseph P. FarrellThe Trial of Jack RubyKaplan amp; WaltzWithout smoking gunKent Heiner amp; Daniel MarvinOswaldKerry Wendell ThornleyJFKL. Fletcher ProutyUltimate SacrificeLamar WaldrenThe Hidden History of the JFK AssassinationLamar WaldrenLegacy of SecracyLamar WaldenKilling JFKLance MooreNo more SilenceLarry A. Sneed Someone would have talkedLarry Hancock NexusLarry HancockThe Kennedy Half CenturyLarry J. SabatoThe JFK MythsLarry Sturdivan Reporting the Kennedy AssassinationLaura HlavachThe Oswald AffairLeo SauvageThe Day Kennedy DiedLifeThe Kennedy AssassinationLiz GogerlyHighlights of the Warren ReportMarc Davis amp; Jim MatthewsThe bastard bulletMarcus RaymondEchoes from Elm StreetMark Bridger amp; Barry KeaneJohn F. Kennedy Sites in Dallas-Fort WorthMark Doty amp; John H. SlateA Simple Act of MurderMark Furhman Plausible DenialMark LaneRush to JudgmentMark LaneA citizens dissentMark LaneRush to Judgment trade paperbackMark LaneThe Last WordMark LaneAct of TreasonMark NorthBetrayal in DallasMark NorthJFK The Second PlotMatthew SmithSay Good bye to AmericaMatthew SmithThe Plot to Stop the KennedysMatthew SmithWho Killed KennedyMatthew SmithKennedy Assassination TapesMax HollandDispelling the mythsMel Ayton Questions of ConspiracyMel Ayton Questions of ControversyMel Ayton Beyond Reasonable DoubtMel Ayton and David Von PeinCrime of the CenturyMichael KurtzThe JFK Assassination DebatesMichael KurtzEncyclopedia of the JFK assassinationMichael Benson Who's Who in the JFK AssassinationMichael BensonJFK Vs. CIA:Michael CalderFinal JudgementMichael Collins PiperThe Oswald FileMichael EddowesKrushchev Killed KennedyMichael EddowesNov 22 - How they killed KennedyMichael EddowesPhantom ShotMike Majerus amp; Jack Nessan The Garrison CaseMilton E. BrennerLove FieldNellie ConnallyJFK Assassination RehearsalNick NeroRethinking CamelotNoam ChomskyBloody TreasonNoel TymanOswalds TaleNorman MailerPassport to AssassinationOleg M. NechiporenkoJFK The book of the filmOliver StoneAnalysis of a ShootingOrlando MartinZapruderedOyvind VagnesInterview with historyPamela J. RayFalse WitnessPatricia LambertThe Kennedy ClanPaul H. DaviesLee Harvey Oswald and the American dreamPaul SitesThe French ConnectionPeter KrossDeep PoliticsPeter Dale ScottDeep Politics 2Peter Dale ScottOswald Mexico and Deep PoliticsPeter Dale ScottCrime and Cover UpPeter Dale ScottThe Kennedy AssassinationPeter KnightMary's MosaicPeter JaneyLegacy of DoubtPeter NoyesInterloper Lee Harvey Oswald in the Soviet UnionPeter SavodnikLBJPhillips F. 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That a bullet striking JFK must have completely gone through his body is absolutely essential to the Warren Commission's theory. This is known as 'transit' ... however, there's quite a bit of evidence against any transiting bullet, and only speculation to favor it.



It's important to understand this - THERE IS NO DIRECT EVIDENCE FOR TRANSIT - only speculation. One such speculative bit of "evidence" is the bruise to the apical portion of JFK's lung... but this could have been easily, and most credibly explained as a result of the bullet that entered the front of JFK's throat, and ranged downward... as the Parkland doctors presumed (and treated JFK on that basis!)



Transit is an ABSOLUTE requirement for the lone assassin theory...



The evidence suggests the opposite.

From Walter F. Graf and Richard R. Bartholomew:

Quote:From the beginning, there has been no reason to deny the conspiracy. Four of the seven Warren Commissioners -- the majority -- including the Commission's chairman, Chief Justice Earl Warren, expressed doubts about the Commission's conclusions within a decade of their report. They were joined by a fifth Commissioner in 1978, when John J. McCloy told the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), that "I no longer feel we had no credible evidence or reliable evidence in regard to a conspiracy...." Lyndon Johnson never believed the report he commissioned. The official policy of the FBI is that the case is not closed, a policy begun by J. Edgar Hoover himself. And those were the people who had supposedly found the truth.



By any standard of historiography, the lone-assassin scenario must be considered a minority opinion which is contrary to the known evidence. Yet that is not enough for a vocal minority of conspiracy deniers.

Well stated... why do believers reject conspiracy when those who know far more of the evidence express their doubts? It's simply not reasonable to be so dogmatic on the issue.



Patrick claims that there are "well reasoned" books that reject (or fail to support) the Lone Assassin theory - yet he refuses to name even one title.



This shows that Patrick is merely pretending to be less dogmatic than he actually is... for otherwise, he'd be happy to list the titles of books he considers "well reasoned".



Mark Lane's 'Rush To Judgment' surely must be one of those titles, since Patrick refuses to point out anything specifically wrong with it. Mark Ulrik has managed to find a number counted wrong... sadly, this isn't a book on mathematics.



Why are believers so inflexible in their faith?



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Quote:What other bullets did or did not do has nothing to do with CE399. It's actions and condition is unrelated to any other bullets. It is entirely possible that it could inflict the wounds that it did and remain in the condition that it is in because that is what it did. Just as Oswald's marksmanship as tested by the Marines is unrelated. On that day, in that place, he was a good enough marksman to make the shot. The proof that he could do it is that HE DID, and the conspiracy nitwits cannot name another shooter, afte 50 years and over 10000 posts on this forum, alone.

This is, of course, the fundamental logical fallacy known as 'Begging The Question'. It is assumed that CE399 did what the Warren Commission said it did - therefore any evidence that contradicts that (which is basically all the ballistics testing done for the Warren Commission) is meaningless.



But this is simply assuming what you need to demonstrate.



Ditto with Oswald's marksmanship... it was incredibly poorer than the three marksmen used to attempt to duplicate their scenario by the Warren Commission - yet they couldn't do the job, despite their many advantages (quite dishonest advantages given to them by the Warren Commission)



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